Stlaware Forums http://www.stlaware.com/index.phpSun, 20 May 2012 09:42:08 -0500 Phorum 5.2.18 http://www.stlaware.com/read.php?61,999,999#msg-999 Walleye bitinghttp://www.stlaware.com/read.php?61,999,999#msg-999The White river has been at NO generation for most of the day. This makes for really good wade fishing, but severly limits boating. Many ramps are not usable at this level. Fishing for trout has been very good.]]> wapati Norfolk Lake, Arkansas ForumThu, 17 May 2012 06:37:38 -0500 http://www.stlaware.com/read.php?54,697,998#msg-998 Re: Changes to MO CCW and Use of Force now listed on stlccw.comhttp://www.stlaware.com/read.php?54,697,998#msg-998
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tittiger
Good luck I feel for you my friend.

Sounds like guns without papers - that you can hold onto if the police ever demand all of your guns will always come in handy. Especially after a shoot like you have experienced.

What More papers do they Want other than my Leagle Bill of Sale one from active & the other from Retired Military]]> skipit91 Missouri Concealed Carry ForumWed, 16 May 2012 00:41:45 -0500 http://www.stlaware.com/read.php?54,697,997#msg-997 Re: Changes to MO CCW and Use of Force now listed on stlccw.comhttp://www.stlaware.com/read.php?54,697,997#msg-997
Sounds like guns without papers - that you can hold onto if the police ever demand all of your guns will always come in handy. Especially after a shoot like you have experienced.]]> tittiger Missouri Concealed Carry ForumWed, 09 May 2012 04:36:22 -0500 http://www.stlaware.com/read.php?54,697,996#msg-996 Re: Changes to MO CCW and Use of Force now listed on stlccw.comhttp://www.stlaware.com/read.php?54,697,996#msg-996
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tittiger
A clean shoot and they stole your property and it is up to you to prove they are yours? (Guilty until proven innocent)

What are you to do if some punck reads that your guns were taken and breaks in tonight?

Seems like law enforcement are always criminal in these matters. We would be much better off without them.

I have No way to reply to this statement cept to say my 4mo old puppy wont let me go to bed any more & she's Now constantly Patrolling my home. Especially at night And wake's me up at 2;AM again to make Me search. I try to seek council but I'm looked at as a paranoid freak, & sure I feel More Aware & yes to maby the point of Paranoia cos What will the Junkies friends eventually do?
I have a Long Hard road ahead of me & fear Mr. Prosecutor might want to promote his carrier & come after me with anything he can. In the mean time all I can do is keep Trying to find a Lawyer to get advice from,
That so far is a impossible task not knowing any what kind to find where to look, ect,,, I been Thur the book & on line with No Luck so far.
I ain't the big Strong man I look I'm just a scarred little kid/old disabled man that had to look for armed self defence since my body don't work to well for the last 5yrs or so.
So All that's left is Greg's advice about 4 square Breathing]]> skipit91 Missouri Concealed Carry ForumTue, 08 May 2012 20:06:06 -0500 http://www.stlaware.com/read.php?54,697,995#msg-995 Re: Changes to MO CCW and Use of Force now listed on stlccw.comhttp://www.stlaware.com/read.php?54,697,995#msg-995
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tittiger
A clean shoot and they stole your property and it is up to you to prove they are yours? (Guilty until proven innocent)

What are you to do if some punck reads that your guns were taken and breaks in tonight?

Seems like law enforcement are always criminal in these matters. We would be much better off without them.

I have No way to reply to this statement cept to say my 4mo old puppy wont let me go to bed any more & she's Now constantly Patroling my home. Especially at night And wakaes me up at 2;AM again to make Me search. I try to seek councel but im looked at as a paranoid freak, & sure I feel More Aware & yes to maby the point of Paranoia cos What will the Junkeys friends eventually do?
I have a Long Hard road ahead of me & fear Mr. Prosicuter might want to promote his carrier & come after me with anything he can. In the mean time all I can do is keep Trying to find a Lawyer to get advice from,
That so far is a impossible task not knowing any what kind to find where to look, ect,,, I been thru the book & on line with No Luck so far.
I aint the big stong man I look im just a scarred little kid/old disabled man that had to look for armed self defence since my body dont work to well for the last 5yrs or so.
So All that's left is Gregs advice about 4 square Breathing]]> skipit91 Missouri Concealed Carry ForumTue, 08 May 2012 20:02:29 -0500 http://www.stlaware.com/read.php?6,994,994#msg-994 LITY's Elbow is numb from taking out Matt Cooke: Hartford Whalers Trivia?http://www.stlaware.com/read.php?6,994,994#msg-994
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2) Who scored the first game winning goal for the Hartford Whalers in the NHL?

3) Who took the Whalers first penalty in the NHL?

4) Who was the first Whaler to a 2nd goal?

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]]> Daytong Amateur Ice HockeyFri, 04 May 2012 22:21:18 -0500 http://www.stlaware.com/read.php?54,697,993#msg-993 Re: Changes to MO CCW and Use of Force now listed on stlccw.comhttp://www.stlaware.com/read.php?54,697,993#msg-993
What are you to do if some punck reads that your guns were taken and breaks in tonight?

Seems like law enforcement are always criminal in these matters. We would be much better off without them.]]> tittiger Missouri Concealed Carry ForumThu, 03 May 2012 09:53:14 -0500 http://www.stlaware.com/read.php?54,697,992#msg-992 Re: Changes to MO CCW and Use of Force now listed on stlccw.comhttp://www.stlaware.com/read.php?54,697,992#msg-992
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skipit91
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tittiger
Skipit
When the Constitution was written felons were prohibited from owning weapons, is my understanding, but a felony was a crime that was punisheable by death - not possing a plant that is an inalienable right to own. grow, or posess, and that the founding fathers grew, and the Constition was written on.

Does not anyone else see the irony in recognizing the right to self defense as an inalienable right, and then making that right a crime for some at the same time? I guess the criminal government considers it a conditional inalienable right.

Good luck brother. The only criminals that I see in this situation would be cops that would prosecute you and take your rights away rather than protecting them.

I dont know if this link will work but its a example of a (quote from 5 officers at the sean it was a good shoot)


http://fox2now.com/2012/05/02/intruder-shot-by-homeowner-in-fenton/#ooid=94dTNtNDq0dxzagBvi8YDF7uvfIEuUNB

Greg,
Thanks for your training, I made fox 2 news And posted it on my facebook page. A burglar attacked me in my home and demanded money while holding MY XD40 loaded & chambered. That is the only night I forgot to take it to bed.

After getting body slammed (broke 3 ribs) I knew I was dead, so I rolled over & got my Glock, racked & fired. Police say it was a good shoot. I was groggy when woke from a sound sleep and had milliseconds to make my decision. Thanks to your training I got one in his ass but my spread was about 4' wide cos I am getting cataract surgery & was basically shooting blind.
I am still freaked out over it & feel even worse that I shot him but if I didn't I would be dead.

Channel 4 wanted my interview but being still freaked I said 'No comment'.
Now I feel I should have done the interview & told the news that with out your training and methods I would be dead. So thanks for your excellent training course.
Now I gotta go to Hillsboro with my bill of sale & try to get my guns back.]]> skipit91 Missouri Concealed Carry ForumThu, 03 May 2012 09:01:44 -0500 http://www.stlaware.com/read.php?54,960,990#msg-990 Re: CCW DENIEDhttp://www.stlaware.com/read.php?54,960,990#msg-990
http://www.senate.mo.gov/llookup/leg_lookup.aspx

http://www.house.mo.gov/member.aspx]]> CCWTrainer Missouri Concealed Carry ForumThu, 03 May 2012 00:29:30 -0500 http://www.stlaware.com/read.php?54,697,989#msg-989 Re: Changes to MO CCW and Use of Force now listed on stlccw.comhttp://www.stlaware.com/read.php?54,697,989#msg-989
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tittiger
Skipit
When the Constitution was written felons were prohibited from owning weapons, is my understanding, but a felony was a crime that was punisheable by death - not possing a plant that is an inalienable right to own. grow, or posess, and that the founding fathers grew, and the Constition was written on.

Does not anyone else see the irony in recognizing the right to self defense as an inalienable right, and then making that right a crime for some at the same time? I guess the criminal government considers it a conditional inalienable right.

Good luck brother. The only criminals that I see in this situation would be cops that would prosecute you and take your rights away rather than protecting them.

I dont know if this link will work but its a example of a (quote from 5 officers at the sean it was a good shoot)

Skip Wilson
http://fox2now.com/2012/05/02/intruder-shot-by-homeowner-in-fenton/#ooid=94dTNtNDq0dxzagBvi8YDF7uvfIEuUNB]]> skipit91 Missouri Concealed Carry ForumWed, 02 May 2012 23:20:40 -0500 http://www.stlaware.com/read.php?54,697,988#msg-988 Re: Changes to MO CCW and Use of Force now listed on stlccw.comhttp://www.stlaware.com/read.php?54,697,988#msg-988
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tittiger
Skipit
When the Constitution was written felons were prohibited from owning weapons, is my understanding, but a felony was a crime that was punisheable by death - not possing a plant that is an inalienable right to own. grow, or posess, and that the founding fathers grew, and the Constition was written on.

Does not anyone else see the irony in recognizing the right to self defense as an inalienable right, and then making that right a crime for some at the same time? I guess the criminal government considers it a conditional inalienable right.

Good luck brother. The only criminals that I see in this situation would be cops that would prosecute you and take your rights away rather than protecting them.

Thanks Bro,
I heard bout a year ago how our founding fathers Had Many use of hemp to calm slaves as fuel oil rope clothing food, the list goes on But it was the Chemical companys that got in bet with the polititions to outlaw hemp to Open the door for chemical products & just Flat make there wallets FAT. It was also criminalized to make work for law enforcment the criminal justus system lawyers prosicuters ,,, the list is to big to post it all but the Law Must be changed!! for instance my guns are leagle but I get red tape hassel while the cryminal can pick up any gun they want & when they get cought they just lawyer up get out with a slap on the wrist & go out with another gun to commit crime.
It is a Sad state that law abiding citizens get a microscope up there a$$ on gun ownership & the bad guy has No trouble]]> skipit91 Missouri Concealed Carry ForumWed, 02 May 2012 23:15:28 -0500 http://www.stlaware.com/read.php?6,987,987#msg-987 Where is the best seating in Rexall Place during an Edmonton Oilers game?http://www.stlaware.com/read.php?6,987,987#msg-987


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]]> Daytong Amateur Ice HockeyWed, 02 May 2012 23:00:08 -0500 http://www.stlaware.com/read.php?6,985,986#msg-986 Re: How big of a shot do the washington capitals have of winning the stanley cup this year?http://www.stlaware.com/read.php?6,985,986#msg-986
Guvner.]]> Guvner Amateur Ice HockeyWed, 02 May 2012 21:13:15 -0500 http://www.stlaware.com/read.php?6,985,985#msg-985 How big of a shot do the washington capitals have of winning the stanley cup this year?http://www.stlaware.com/read.php?6,985,985#msg-985
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]]> Pawtucket Amateur Ice HockeyWed, 02 May 2012 20:00:49 -0500 http://www.stlaware.com/read.php?54,697,984#msg-984 Re: Changes to MO CCW and Use of Force now listed on stlccw.comhttp://www.stlaware.com/read.php?54,697,984#msg-984Skipit
When the Constitution was written felons were prohibited from owning weapons, is my understanding, but a felony was a crime that was punisheable by death - not possing a plant that is an inalienable right to own. grow, or posess, and that the founding fathers grew, and the Constition was written on.

Does not anyone else see the irony in recognizing the right to self defense as an inalienable right, and then making that right a crime for some at the same time? I guess the criminal government considers it a conditional inalienable right.

Good luck brother. The only criminals that I see in this situation would be cops that would prosecute you and take your rights away rather than protecting them.]]> tittiger Missouri Concealed Carry ForumTue, 01 May 2012 14:41:05 -0500 http://www.stlaware.com/read.php?54,697,983#msg-983 Re: Changes to MO CCW and Use of Force now listed on stlccw.comhttp://www.stlaware.com/read.php?54,697,983#msg-983Now legal or not if I did not have a hand gun to defend myself I would be DEAD & not able to post this.
So I have already contacted Lawyers to get my fel. pot sale at age 17 Expunged & they all say it's a good
chance to get that fel Expunged.
However in the mean time what would I be looking at in terms of getting my gun back or should I pack my tooth brush
for (what jail term) with or with out a lawyer?
The 5 separate Officers at the sean said " It was a Good Shoot" since it was a Armed Brake in and I am Disabled &
I should not worry about haveing a hand gun bought from a private party
With a Bill of Sale.

So what is it? lawyer up go to jail or get my gun back or loose out untill I get my fel Expunged]]> skipit91 Missouri Concealed Carry ForumTue, 01 May 2012 13:51:17 -0500 http://www.stlaware.com/read.php?61,980,982#msg-982 And even more photoshopping on your photo to remove shadows...http://www.stlaware.com/read.php?61,980,982#msg-982 Guvner Norfolk Lake, Arkansas ForumTue, 24 Apr 2012 22:48:12 -0500 http://www.stlaware.com/read.php?61,980,980#msg-980 Striper tourneyhttp://www.stlaware.com/read.php?61,980,980#msg-980 wapati Norfolk Lake, Arkansas ForumMon, 23 Apr 2012 11:58:58 -0500 http://www.stlaware.com/read.php?6,979,979#msg-979 What stores sell Buffalo Sabres Jerseys?http://www.stlaware.com/read.php?6,979,979#msg-979Chris Drury 23
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Buffalo Sabres Jerseys]]> Daytong Amateur Ice HockeySat, 21 Apr 2012 03:08:00 -0500 http://www.stlaware.com/read.php?6,978,978#msg-978 Where can I find a 1999 Buffalo Sabres jersey for sale?http://www.stlaware.com/read.php?6,978,978#msg-978 Daytong Amateur Ice HockeySat, 21 Apr 2012 03:04:27 -0500 http://www.stlaware.com/read.php?54,960,976#msg-976 Re: CCW DENIEDhttp://www.stlaware.com/read.php?54,960,976#msg-976
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Mike]]> mikemacmo Missouri Concealed Carry ForumWed, 18 Apr 2012 21:47:39 -0500 http://www.stlaware.com/read.php?54,972,975#msg-975 Re: RECCW CLASShttp://www.stlaware.com/read.php?54,972,975#msg-975in Mo. And im still not clear on trying for a Fl. non resident permit. $114.00 is a lot to some that is non refundable if denied]]> skipit91 Missouri Concealed Carry ForumTue, 17 Apr 2012 15:12:50 -0500 http://www.stlaware.com/read.php?54,972,974#msg-974 Re: RECCW CLASShttp://www.stlaware.com/read.php?54,972,974#msg-974Just come back and shoot some more in an intro and I'll give you a new certificate. The control # blank on the MO sheriff's CCW form is theirs. I assume they put something in that space when you use the form to apply for the license.]]> CCWTrainer Missouri Concealed Carry ForumTue, 17 Apr 2012 10:59:55 -0500 http://www.stlaware.com/read.php?54,960,973#msg-973 Re: CCW DENIEDhttp://www.stlaware.com/read.php?54,960,973#msg-973
Go here and look at the eligibility PDF:
http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/weapons/index.html]]> CCWTrainer Missouri Concealed Carry ForumTue, 17 Apr 2012 10:56:20 -0500 http://www.stlaware.com/read.php?54,972,972#msg-972 RECCW CLASShttp://www.stlaware.com/read.php?54,972,972#msg-972Would one who got a denial for a gun purchase After the NICS Appeal is won need to take another CCW course?
Also on the Instructor Qualification Form should there be a control number?]]> skipit91 Missouri Concealed Carry ForumTue, 17 Apr 2012 10:46:50 -0500 http://www.stlaware.com/read.php?54,960,971#msg-971 Re: CCW DENIEDhttp://www.stlaware.com/read.php?54,960,971#msg-971Would one go for a Florida permit & Not disclose a "felony controlled substance" that was committed at age 17 with saitsfyed probation over 40 years old but shows up on the rap sheet as age 18?]]> skipit91 Missouri Concealed Carry ForumTue, 17 Apr 2012 10:36:32 -0500 http://www.stlaware.com/read.php?54,960,970#msg-970 Re: CCW DENIEDhttp://www.stlaware.com/read.php?54,960,970#msg-970From the research iv done since Jan. 12 the lawyer & others I contacted say you need to get the Original arrest record expunged & either lawyer up "up to $800.00 to get it expunged or do it your self.
It is a complicated procedure but explained clearly on a few you tube vids I saw.
That is a Must for the NICS Appeal since they will not dig that deep into your original charge.
I know of a person who got deny ed over a pot sale at age 17 but the record shows it as he was 18. That was 42 yrs ago]]> skipit91 Missouri Concealed Carry ForumTue, 17 Apr 2012 10:30:41 -0500 http://www.stlaware.com/read.php?6,969,969#msg-969 Who scored the last goal in quebec nordiques history?http://www.stlaware.com/read.php?6,969,969#msg-969maybe owen nolan]]> Pawtucket Amateur Ice HockeyFri, 13 Apr 2012 21:03:43 -0500 http://www.stlaware.com/read.php?6,968,968#msg-968 What are good skates for an ice hockey player who has been playing for about a year?http://www.stlaware.com/read.php?6,968,968#msg-968 Daytong Amateur Ice HockeyFri, 13 Apr 2012 04:50:01 -0500 http://www.stlaware.com/read.php?61,967,967#msg-967 Stripers bitinghttp://www.stlaware.com/read.php?61,967,967#msg-967 wapati Norfolk Lake, Arkansas ForumThu, 12 Apr 2012 18:17:32 -0500